AdvancedHMI Software

General Category => Open Discussion => Topic started by: MDoty on February 22, 2017, 10:56:31 AM

Title: Windows 10 UWP
Post by: MDoty on February 22, 2017, 10:56:31 AM: Hello everyone

I am new to AdvancedHMI and am evaluating it for use at my company.
Currently a Windows Forms application is fine but in the not to distant future UWP application support would be preferred.
My question is this on the roadmap? If so any idea on the timetable?

Many thanks!
Mike
Title: Re: Windows 10 UWP
Post by: Archie on February 22, 2017, 04:58:06 PM: WPF, UWP, and .NET Core have all been considered for a foundation of AdvancedHMI. The problem with any of these is the lack of RAD (Rapid Application Development) capabilities. The target user of AdvancedHMI is the typical PLC programmer in which the majority are not desktop application developers. If this group was asked to create a WPF application by writing XAML and VB/C#, the majority would not even open Visual Studio, let alone attempt use AdvancedHMI. A majority of those who do try would quickly give up once seeing the requirements of understanding things such as layout patterns, binding, value converters, and dependency properties.

The philosophy of AdvancedHMI is to create an extremely easy environment to compete with things such as FactoryTalk, C-More, AVG, Red Lion, etc. As of now, none of the latest technologies from Microsoft offer that, so most likely there will be no UWP version in the near future.

To fill some of that gap, versions of the communication drivers are being made compatible with UWP and will eventually be made available for purchase from the web site.
Title: Re: Windows 10 UWP
Post by: bachphi on February 22, 2017, 11:02:31 PM: I agree. MS took a few step backwards in VS design. A lot of craps in the new VS2017, 13GB to download.

Visually it's looks nicer, but much more time in design and complex XAML coding....

Take an example of recent changes by GoogleVoice, its interface got fancier with color texting and all that, but then the important features like History of placed calls, missed calls, received calls are now gone. What a stupid change.
Title: Re: Windows 10 UWP
Post by: AAN160 on April 24, 2017, 09:06:23 PM: Archie, when do you think the UWP Drivers will be available for purchase?
Title: Re: Windows 10 UWP
Post by: Archie on April 24, 2017, 09:22:09 PM: Quote from: AAN160 on April 24, 2017, 09:06:23 PM
Archie, when do you think the UWP Drivers will be available for purchase?
It will probably be at least 3 months because they are being rewritten from ground up.
Title: Re: Windows 10 UWP
Post by: mpshannon23 on May 03, 2017, 11:36:28 AM: Will there be comms drivers for ControlLogix for WPF?
Title: Re: Windows 10 UWP
Post by: Archie on May 03, 2017, 02:21:02 PM: Quote from: mpshannon23 on May 03, 2017, 11:36:28 AM
Will there be comms drivers for ControlLogix for WPF?
The stand-alone ControlLogix driver that is available from the main web site is compatible with WPF.

http://www.advancedhmi.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=14
Title: Re: Windows 10 UWP
Post by: bachphi on May 03, 2017, 04:36:43 PM: The price is great! 5 times cheaper than other driver like Cimquest Ingear, plus you got a great support from Archie.